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title: "The Growing Importance of Software Bills of Materials (SBOM)"
date: 2023-11-29
categories:
  - english
  - podcast
tags:
  - SupplyChain
  - OSPO
  - Security
  - DeutscheBahn
headerimage:
  src: sap-open-source-way.png
audio: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-growing-importance-of-software-bills-of-materials-sbom/id1535460646?i=1000636913792
event:
  name: SAP's Open Source Way Podcast
  href: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-open-source-way/id1535460646
---

I have been invited to talk about Software Bills of Materials (SBOM) in SAP's Open Source Way Podcast, hosted by Karsten Hohage and with SAP's Sebastian Wolf as co-guest. We had an interesting conversation about the growing importance of SBOMs in the software industry and their role within Deutsche Bahn. We also discussed the limits of SBOMs and how they can be complemented with other approaches to better understand and manage risks.

> In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks to Max Mehl and Sebastian Wolf about Software Bills of Materials or SBOMs. An SBOM is a detailed record of all components within a software application, including Open Source libraries, third-party dependencies and licenses. Max and Sebastian discuss the importance of SBOMs as well as some challenges and unanswered questions of the state of the art. They also speak with Karsten about SBOMs within SAP and Deutsche Bahn and the importance of SBOMs when it comes to Open Source.

You can listen to the episode on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-growing-importance-of-software-bills-of-materials-sbom/id1535460646?i=1000636913792) or on [Spotify](https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/the-open-source-way/episodes/The-Growing-Importance-of-Software-Bills-of-Materials-SBOM-e3c8qn2).
